G-dog on a hot tin roof

in #diy3 years ago

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The enlightened ruler is heedful, and the good general full of caution.

- Sun Tzu -



I am neither a ruler or a general however I am cautious when it comes certain things; not timid mind you, just cautious.

Applying caution has, at times, saved me from pain and suffering and I'll go as far as saying that it's saved my life as well. It is, therefore, with caution that I approached a job that needs doing around my house last weekend.

Damage

Late last year we had a terrible hail storm that caused a lot of damage. Many thousands of cars were hail-damaged, properties were flooded from the ceiling down and crops, including important vineyards in the Barossa Valley, were decimated. It was a very destructive sixty seconds costing millions of dollars.

I had thought my house was intact until I noticed some stained ceilings in my internal garage and second living area a few weeks after the storm and on further inspection realised I'd had water ingress. Insurance is repairing that damage this week and I figured I'd gotten away with it quite lightly considering the damage some have sustained. That was until I was in my second garage the other day whilst it was raining.

On the roof of that garage are some light panels made up of some sort of a fibreglass material (as pictured) and water was dripping from cracks caused by that hail storm. Considering what I have in the garage I can't tolerate leaks so rectification is required. I was contemplating calling my insurance company but with a five hundred dollar excess on claims I discounted it right away. That left three options: Fix it myself, fix it myself with help or pay someone to fix it.

Considerations

Asking for help isn't my thing, I'm an independent man, and paying someone to do a job I can easily handle myself doesn't sit well either so my first thought was to fix it myself; it's easy enough to do really.

But here's the thing, almost a year ago I fell off my roof whilst cleaning the gutters and it hurt a lot; in fact, more than you'd actually expect.

I use my garden blower to do the job, walking along blowing the leaves and dirt out and sweeping it all up later, from below. It's quick and easy...until one falls off the roof. You can read the story here and whilst I make light of it in the post, in truth, it wasn't that funny; I was lucky I only sustained minor injuries and major pain.

I actually fell only centimetres from a wooden stake that holds up a plant in the garden bed I fell into. A few centimetres to the left and I would have been impaled through my right side ribcage area. Anyway, it makes me a little cautious of getting on the roof now. I'm not getting any younger and don't bounce as well as I used to, and being impaled doesn't sound like any fun at all.

On Sunday I assessed the job which is quite simple: Access roof, reverse tek-screws holding the sheets, remove existing cracked sheets, replace with new ones, tek-screw in place, exfil from roof. An easy mission.

Caution

The problem is that the roof is a long way up as the garage is set on a built-up, retaining-walled, section of my allotment and the paths (ground level) are well below the floor-level of the garage meaning the roof is extra high; I have a suitably long ladder but manoeuvring the sheeting up and down to the height I need myself will be problematic and makes what should be a simple job a little more complicated. Of course, it's safer to have a roofing-buddy to help and so that's the consideration.

I measured up and went to the hardware store to cost up the job. I won't be replacing those sheets with the shitty fibreglass stuff that's there already as it's just rubbish. There's two other options to select from, both polycarbonate.

The one I like, the beehive (prismatic) one, is $132AUD, for each 2.4m long sheet and the other is $42AUD per sheet. Both will let light in however the more expensive is tougher and will last longer. I have the tek-screws and ladder and all so it's really just the choice of sheeting I need to decide on. images below from here.

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I also decided to replace the fluorescent tube lighting with LED versions so priced them up also. I need four of them so it's another $60AUD.

After assessing the job I have decided it's something I can handle although caution has swayed me towards asking a friend to help. I don't really like the idea but I like the idea of falling to my death or being rendered permanently disabled because I stubbornly chose to do it myself even less.

I'm going to grab the sheets next weekend as I'll have to unload my kayaks from my trailer to get them home and I couldn't be bothered doing it last Sunday, and then I'll work out a plan to get the job done. Considering it's summer, I'll be looking for a cooler day and will do it in the early morning. The hardest part is going to be asking for help as it really goes against the grain for me to do so; I'm a rather independent caveman. I'll ask though, and after we do the job cook up a decent bacon and eggs breakfast and brew up some legit coffee for my mate and sit around celebrating our roofing-magnificence.

I'll let y'all know how it goes, either after a successful roofing exercise or from the hospital; let's hope the former. Don't worry folks, if I was to fall I'll be sure to land on my head which will limit the amount of damage to other more important parts of me.

How about you? Have you ever had a job to do at home or elsewhere but caution made you think twice and seek alternative options? If so, let me know in the comments below. Also, if you want to come over to my place and help let me know in the comments; many hands make light work you know. After the work is done we'll eat and sit around celebrating our handy-person awesomeness, or as I like to say, our handpersomeness. (I know, that's a legit word!)

What do you reckon? Are you coming over to help?


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Fuck off.

🤣 lol this was classic

I aim to please.

I barely ever do DIYs because as the last child with 3 brothers, no one ever lets me but I wish I could do more.

Also, that offer seems really tempting, I wish I could come help.

I love me some DIY, it's so rewarding. I'm not sure how much work would get done if a bunch of hivers came over. Probably less work than fun.

We would definitely get distracted and abandon the work.

We'd need the right mix of Hivers but yeah, I agree. Party at G-dog's house!

😆 time and place, If it ever happens, I need to prepare and being my A-game.

Bring it! lol.

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DIY homework, wish I was still able to get things done, now have to rely on some assistance with rust eating through roofing outdoors on carport and patio.

Thanks for information on materials you about to use, will look into these as well.

Coastal air and sunlight sure know how to eat into things after 10 year warranty is up.

Yep, coastal air isn't great for houses usually. Corrosion is a bit if a house killer huh?

Our coast is known to gobble non-stop, sometimes wonder when move will happen.... One day soon I hope!

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Now here I can brag, as I was a roofing problem solver some years ago. Done many roofs and even built a rich guy's gymnasium inside his high sloped roof. Everite was a roof slate manufacturing company and one engineer there sent all of their problem clients to me. You cannot believe the shoddy work that some contractors do. We also did roof paint spraying and I handed all of that over to my son.
If I was you , I would only use the thicker Poly sheets, as they are better at handling hail, except when the hail stones are tennis ball size, as that can break anything.

There's no shoddy G-dog's around here so I'm pretty sure the process will go ok, unless I fall off and crack my melon in two. In that case, not so well. Don't worry, my noggin is pretty think so if I do fall I hopefully fall on it, the rest of me isn't as robust.

I'm planning on the better product, the money isn't a factor but longevity is; I'd rather not have to do this twice.

If you were here I'd get you to do it whilst I sit back and direct operations with helpful hints and suggestions. 😊

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So wish I was there mate. We would raise the roof and build an awesome viewing room for you.
Time I left there you would be be able to make tour own roof trusses and repair the other peoples roofs as a part time income :)

Cheap buy is expensive buy. That's a true saying over here, as cheap buy never lasts and then it costs extra to do the job again. Thicknesses of the sheets are very important and the thicker the better. Poly also handles the sun's UV rays better. Thinner sheets bleach and become brittle.

Sadly no sitting when I am around, as I am a slave driver, so near the end you will pray for me to leave sooner 😊

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These suntuf sheets are pretty legit and are designed to withstand the Australian conditions so I'm pretty confident. It'll be the honeycomb version for sure.

Yep, we also have them here and they do indeed do the job. A good choice.

I love DIY work but as you do, I am starting to feel more cautious when having to go up to the roof. I would consider taking some security precautions like using a rope.
And although you may like doing things alone, having a mate makes things easier, safer, and sometimes brings some into the task.
Have a great fixing day this weekend!
Maybe this could be this weekend challenge theme :)

Working on the roof is always a little dangerous. I found out last year when I fell. I'd like to tether to something but there's nothing really suitable to attach to. I'll just have to be careful I guess. If I fall, I hope I fall on my buddy so he breaks my fall. If he gets injured, my life will go on. 😉

Roof shenanigans is always going to be dangerous, whether you're higher up than normal or not. I'm not a fan of this kinda thing and although I did my own garage roof waterproofing a few years back (a LOT of waterproofing because it was a parapet roof which I HATE), it really is not the kind of thing that is high up on my DIY list.

I like the look of that beehive sheeting, I haven't even seen that here and I looked at roof sheeting not that long ago, I wonder if it's even available in South Africa.

I'm sure that you'll find someone who can help you out with passing up the sheets, asking for help isn't THAT difficult if it can save you from falling on your noggin - you did it in this post pretty well. I'd come help but being as short as I am, don't actually know how much assistance I would be.

Keen to read the post post. Be safe

Roofing...not the kind of thing that is high up on my DIY list.

Myself.

I'm sure that you'll find someone who can help you out with passing up the sheets

Munchkins need not apply yo.

Keen to read the post post.

There may be a post post, it depends on the result. If I fall and splat my noggin all over the pavers then...certainly a post post. What good story that would make.

Also, I reckon you could find a similar product there...Although of course, it won't be as good as the Australian version as it is, after all, Safferland.

EDIT: Hey spazzmo, https://www.palram.com/za/

Thanks for the link. Couldn't actually find the beehive profile IBR or corrugated on there, but it's probably available if you request it. Did you see that you can get ballistics grade polycarbonate? That will probably take hail impact pretty well.

Couldn't actually find the beehive profile IBR or corrugated on there

Safferland, so naturally.

Anything with the word ballistics in it revs my engine. I am but a simple man.

I found it. It's freaking hidden away though in the depths of their website.

It's cool stuff and is probably the way I'll go.